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[18:30:59] * kssreeram [kssreeram!~kssreeram@49.207.185.169] has joined the channel. [18:47:56] * stisti [stisti!~stisti@fsgw.f-secure.com] has joined the channel. [19:37:35] * j-pb [j-pb!~j_pb@5ED295B1.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined the channel. [19:42:55] * j-pb [j-pb!~j_pb@5ED295B1.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). [20:06:00] * kssreeram [kssreeram!~kssreeram@49.207.185.169] has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). [20:20:46] * evincar [evincar!~jonathanp@208.87.56.202] has joined the channel. [20:24:12] I wonder if it's worth adding some kind of syntactic support for "lazy" operators to Kitten. [20:25:03] E.g., "a && b" desugaring to "a { b } (&&)", with the second argument implicitly thunked (wrapped in a closure) so it can be forced (called) later. [20:25:27] Unfortunately, that breaks if people expect real laziness. [20:25:49] * jtimon [jtimon!~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). [20:49:59] * j-pb [j-pb!~j_pb@5ED295B1.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined the channel. [20:54:40] * j-pb [j-pb!~j_pb@5ED295B1.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). [21:28:07] I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_0QlhYlS8g&index=9&list=WL where slava said 1.0 will happen soon and 2.0 in couple of years. That was 8 years ago. What happened? [21:30:30] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has joined the channel. [21:31:14] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [21:31:37] stisti: Slava stopped working on it, and the current maintainers haven't gotten to 1.0 yet. [21:32:07] [21:32:15] Oh wait, this is IRC! [21:32:17] * evincar shrugs. [21:32:25] Anyway, it didn't happen because nobody made it happen. [21:39:07] so, would you still say the Factor language is alive and well? That it makes sense for people to invest time to learn it? [21:44:20] Yeah, I suppose? It is maintained, and slow progress is happening. [21:45:02] I think it's worth learning a concatenative language, and Factor is the most practical one available at the moment. [21:45:40] I don't really use it; I just like making languages, haha [21:46:28] well, I'm not going to use it much either, as AWS lambda doesn't support it :) [21:46:52] but I like learning new languages [21:57:05] You can't install Factor on an instance? I'm not really familiar with Lambda, or how it differs from EC2. [21:57:55] Oh, they give you like a fixed Amazon Linux instance? [22:05:52] yes, they take your code and run it, probably in some kind of custom container [22:07:19] you just provide your code (and all its dependencies) in a zip file. they unzip it into the container and call the entrypoint you configure [22:12:50] * jtimon [jtimon!~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined the channel. [22:13:45] * jtimon [jtimon!~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [22:14:21] The obvious solution is to compile Factor to a supported language. ;) [22:14:31] It originally targeted the JVM, IIRC. [22:14:56] But I'm sure that backend is long gone. [22:22:19] * jtimon [jtimon!~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined the channel. [22:33:45] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has joined the channel. [22:49:08] I'm trying to set up vim as my editor... [22:49:15] USING: editors.vim ; [22:49:19] \ + edit [22:49:58] and it fails... I'm on a Mac, running Factor.app. Is editors.vim smart enough to launch vim in a new terminal window? [22:51:24] I dunno, I had trouble getting the editor integration to work, but I think I fixed it somehow... [22:53:35] Nope, I did not. :P [22:53:48] I was using editors.emacs [22:54:11] And got an error launching the process, even though launching it with the same flags from a terminal worked. [22:54:27] Also on OS X. [22:55:09] * stisti [stisti!~stisti@fsgw.f-secure.com] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [23:00:38] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [23:37:28] * tgunr [tgunr!~davec@cpe-66-91-34-168.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). [23:46:48] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has joined the channel. [23:51:58] * cdt5050 [cdt5050!~cdt5050@h62-m31-pool-04.nat.iastate.edu] has quit (Remote host closed the connection).