[00:12:02] * tgunr [tgunr!~davec@cpe-76-173-81-182.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [00:13:41] * tgunr [tgunr!~davec@cpe-76-173-81-182.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined the channel. [00:15:17] Sgeo__: I like it - the reference capabilities take a bit of getting used too but if you've used modern C++ concepts or linear/unique types in some manner it's not too hard to pick up [00:16:05] Sgeo__: it's a new language though and has some rough edges [00:16:24] Sgeo__: lack of libraries, etc [00:16:26] * Sgeo__ [Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net] has left the channel ("Leaving"). [00:16:35] * Sgeo__ [Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18e4354b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined the channel. [00:16:56] Rust has affine types, how much drastically different are linear/unique types? [00:19:25] * tgunr [tgunr!~davec@cpe-76-173-81-182.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit (Remote host closed the connection). [00:19:32] Sgeo__: As far as I'm aware they're not drastically different. Not in practice anyway. [00:21:44] Sgeo__: Pony is getting a form of dependent types which will make the type system much more expressive [00:21:50] I'm looking forward to playing with that [00:22:05] * Sgeo__ vaguely wants to read the Idris book when it comes out [00:22:11] There's a video on it here https://vimeo.com/175746403 [00:22:40] Although I've seen concern expressed that dependent types hamper good software engineering practice by exposing implementation of functions. I don't know much more than that [00:23:51] At some point we'll be needing languages with debuggers for the type system [00:23:58] actually Shen has that in a way [00:25:03] * tgunr [tgunr!~davec@cpe-76-173-81-182.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined the channel. [00:25:48] Idris sorta lets you do that also, in a primitive way. 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