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[04:20:34] :rajaniemi.freenode.net 353 flogbot = #concatenative :flogbot ephe_meral Sgeo merry FreeFull tgunr groovy2shoes mtp strmpnk jeremyheiler sclv shmibs otoburb @shapr earl dustinm` suppi ecx86 defanor carvite jlewis m_hackerfoo zgrep mollerse shachaf diginet hackerfoo amuck jeaye @erg cstrahan lonjil rotty rgrinberg [04:20:34] :rajaniemi.freenode.net 366 flogbot #concatenative :End of /NAMES list. [04:33:15] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined the channel. [04:45:48] * Territoriojoven [Territoriojoven!~Territori@unaffiliated/territoriojoven] has joined the channel. [04:46:18] shmibs [04:51:33] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). [06:07:05] * FreeFull [FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover] has quit. [10:38:40] * rudha [rudha!~rudha@p200300760E168688E0C55B0EE7A5D758.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined the channel. [12:36:18] * proteusguy [proteusguy!~proteus-g@2405:9800:bc10:1ca:8c92:9d49:fd6f:3b20] has joined the channel. [13:27:49] * sclv [sclv!sid39734@haskell/developer/sclv] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). [13:28:48] * sclv [sclv!sid39734@haskell/developer/sclv] has joined the channel. [14:04:09] funny that, I started #concatenative, not slava [14:04:26] but I wish I were around to ban that guy [14:29:25] * rudha [rudha!~rudha@p200300760E168688E0C55B0EE7A5D758.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Quit: Leaving). [14:59:45] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined the channel. [15:10:00] heh [16:03:54] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). [16:04:10] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined the channel. [16:42:07] * FreeFull [FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover] has joined the channel. [16:48:29] * Territoriojoven [Territoriojoven!~Territori@unaffiliated/territoriojoven] has left the channel. [19:19:34] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@c-73-187-225-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)). [20:36:32] * MDead [MDead!~MDude@pa-67-234-100-233.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined the channel. [21:47:09] * evincar [evincar!~jonathanp@173-228-12-115.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined the channel. [21:50:44] You know, as dumb as the trolling is, I kind of like that we *have* a well-known troll [21:51:26] It's one of those little things that gives depth to the history of our community [21:51:50] Someone new shows up and they go "Who the hell was that?" [21:53:40] I wonder if trolls like to be appreciated. [21:55:33] I'm sure it depends on the person [21:56:17] nah [21:56:21] i used to run a troll group [21:56:31] It can happen: https://gist.github.com/quchen/5280339 [21:56:36] they're all damaged people trying to suppress something inside them [21:56:43] (in my case it was gender dysphoria) [21:59:03] I suppose so, at the very least I'd say "lashing out" like that, even in jest, isn't a good sign [21:59:13] I'd guess that most trolls just don't want to be ignored. Like graffiti artists. The fear of being unknown. [21:59:39] It's also just something to do [22:02:53] And I can imagine it feeling powerful or thrilling to get a rise out of people or fool them, just by typing on a keyboard [22:03:12] yeah, punching down feels good temporarily [22:03:49] Smashing stuff in general [22:04:25] I've seen riots that were started "because we can" [22:04:34] it's just. toxic. [22:04:46] Agreed [22:07:51] In other news, I haven't worked on Kitten for a bit, but it was going well a couple weeks ago and I'm ready to get back into it [22:08:26] I was doing some refactoring to unblock the last few features before release [22:08:34] And it exposed some bugs & faulty assumptions [22:08:41] Which is good, but...frustrating [22:09:10] It's hard to tell if this is progress or endless turd-polishing [22:14:21] I pretty much always feel that kind of malaise though, just a matter of working through it I guess [22:19:58] I've been slowly rewriting significant parts of the compiler portion of PoprC, so that I can remove a hack that is blocking further progress. [22:21:10] It's been a few weeks, but it's starting to work again. Hopefully it will pass all tests by the end of the week. [22:30:03] Glad to hear it :) [22:30:14] My trouble is that the tests pass but the thing doesn't work :P [22:42:00] evincar: I think you need more tests :) [22:46:43] I certainly do [22:47:00] The overall quality has gone up every time I've added more [22:47:44] And the latest rewrite is significantly more testable than previous versions [22:54:09] So I know what I'm doing tonight or this weekend: improving coverage with the unit & integration tests, and adding QuickCheck property tests [23:29:01] * jamtho [jamtho!~jamtho@host217-42-113-225.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined the channel.