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[17:41:56] <erg> hi XZentus, how's the coding?
[17:53:24] <XZentus> hi erg, in progress. I'm newbie in concatenative languages. Expect questions about loops in future
[17:57:19] <erg> np, hope i can pay enough attention to irc so i notice the messages
[18:01:35] <XZentus> is vector a pointer?
[18:01:41] <XZentus> V{ } dup 100500 suffix!
[18:01:44] <XZentus> --- Data stack:
[18:01:49] <XZentus> V{ 100500 }
[18:01:49] <XZentus> V{ 100500 }
[18:02:49] <erg> it's a reference, yeah. V{ } 1 over push ! original V{ } is now V{ 1 }
[18:03:13] <erg> usually you do a clone afterwards though, because if a word definition references a V{ } then it's the same V{ } every time the word is called
[18:03:22] <erg> V{ } clone 1 over push -- this is more idiomatic
[18:08:13] <XZentus> why is this (vs. suffix/suffix!) more idiomatic?
[18:14:12] <erg> i mean ``V{ } clone`` is idiomatic, suffix! is just ``over push`` so it's not that big a deal
[18:22:06] <XZentus> I see, thanks
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