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[00:32:48] <erg> evincar: what's the plan for kitten in 2018? :D
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[03:54:18] <evincar> erg: Ship *something* to the >500 people who starred the repo
[03:54:51] <evincar> They got the demand, I got the supply
[03:55:21] <evincar> And I'm leaving Microsoft soon so I'll have plenty of free time to procrastinate
[03:56:06] <doublec> erg: What's the plan for Factor in 2018? :)
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[05:17:39] <evincar> Somebody should do a 1.0 already
[05:17:42] <evincar> What's blocking it?
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[14:43:22] <bmp> doublec: We're going to switch to prefix from postfix, and add some sort of grouping marker to make it clearer what the arity of any given word is.
[14:43:36] <bmp> We've also discussed switching from terminology like "word" to "function" or "defun."
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[16:55:01] <XZentus> bmp, do you think it's enough to remain 8 core/main commands: > < + - . , [ ] ?
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[20:12:05] <erg> Join the Factor Keyboard Kickstarter! Starting in 2018 you will need an APL-inspired keyboard to program in Factor, where each stack operation has its own key.
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[20:31:05] <shapr> I'd love to get APL keycaps for my ergodox infinity
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[21:29:48] <mtp> i'm putting the rune caps on my keyboardio
[21:30:20] <shapr> mtp: you have the elvish keycaps?
[21:30:43] <shapr> or did you get the scandinavian runes in the Dieter Rams keycap drop?
[21:30:48] <shapr> was that Canvas?
[21:31:00] <mtp> wath
[21:32:06] <shapr> oh, you mean the Factor Keyboard Kickstarter?
[21:32:18] <shapr> I thought you might have meant the Elvish from https://www.massdrop.com/buy/granite-keycap-set
[21:33:07] <shapr> or maybe the Dieter Rams Germanic runes from https://www.massdrop.com/buy/33791
[21:33:53] <shapr> mtp: ok, what DID you mean?
[21:34:07] <shapr> erg: is there really a Factor Keyboard Kickstarter? or was that a joke?
[21:37:30] <mtp> shapr, https://twitter.com/keyboardio/status/929974588724801536
[21:37:51] <shapr> oh wow!
[21:38:58] <mtp> YEAH
[21:39:06] <mtp> i'm really happy with that keyboard fwiw
[21:39:14] <mtp> i have serial number like
[21:39:15] <mtp> 76
[21:39:15] <shapr> How much are they?
[21:39:25] <mtp> $329
[21:39:36] <shapr> I have an Ergodox EZ, 2x Ergodox Infinity, and one unassembled Ergodox Infinity
[21:39:38] <mtp> i got in on the kickstarter like 2 years ago
[21:39:41] <mtp> i have a Kinesis Advantage
[21:39:49] <mtp> had that one since like 2007
[21:39:54] <shapr> and I'm in the planning stages for my own keyboard design
[21:40:08] <shapr> coworker and I are talking about using Haskell + ice40 FPGA in each half
[21:40:17] <shapr> but base it off the dactyl design
[21:43:00] <bmp> erg: https://github.com/blog/2471-introducing-team-discussions looks interesting as a potential mailing list replacement.
[21:43:13] <bmp> Which I'm purely mentioning because I feel like most of our mailing list right now is GitHub forwards plus advertisements from Sourceforge.
[21:48:27] <mtp> shapr, a haskell keyboard sounds interesting
[21:48:57] <shapr> mtp: technically clash-lang -> haskell -> verilog -> yosys -> ice40
[21:51:30] <mtp> sure
[21:51:37] <mtp> but that's still interesting
[21:52:02] <shapr> Much of the motivation comes from dan luu's post about keyboard latency
[21:52:06] <shapr> but really, it just sounds like fun
[21:52:18] <shapr> mtp: have you seen the dactyl?
[21:52:41] <shapr> one of my all-time favorite keyboard designs is the mitosis: https://imgur.com/a/mwTFj#JTzXTCD
[21:56:03] <mtp> i have not
[21:56:20] <mtp> the mitosis is cute
[21:56:26] <shapr> yeah, such an elegant design!
[21:56:34] <shapr> this is the dactyl: https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard
[21:57:25] <shapr> though the dactly is written in Clojure
[21:59:56] <mtp> oh wow is that
[21:59:58] <mtp> a program
[22:00:01] <mtp> that generates a 3D model?
[22:01:42] <shapr> yup, it calls scad
[22:01:50] <shapr> OpenSCAD is pretty neat
[22:25:05] <mtp> i am uh
[22:25:17] <mtp> actually interested in clojuring up a 3D model of a thing
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