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[10:45:07] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Is there a way to tell the Factor kernel to stop bugging me about stack effects
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[13:48:30] <bmp> WilhelmVonWeiner: You can use inline words, depending on why you're asking, but Factor does require the stack effects to match for the code to run, so the real answer is "no."
[14:15:44] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Interesting design decision
[14:16:24] <bmp> Factor is FORTH-inspired; it's not FORTH.
[14:16:41] <bmp> And even in FORTH, you generally do not want arbitrary stack effects; they're very prone to confusion and error.
[14:17:05] <WilhelmVonWeiner> As I was going to say, should probably stop thinking like a Forther and start thinking like a Factorer
[14:17:10] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Factorist?
[14:17:18] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Factoid
[14:30:32] <bmp> Yep. One of the biggest impediments to learning Factor for me way back was trying to treat it like PowerMops (a FORTH dialect). That's really not how it wants to be used.
[14:31:35] <bmp> Vectors/hash tables/etc., plus quotations, eliminate easily 95% of the times I'd use variadic stack effects in FORTH, and inline words cover most of the remainder.
[14:37:40] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Well I mainly use Retero Forth anyway, a forth-like that lifted a lot of Factor concepts
[14:37:50] <WilhelmVonWeiner> but I wanted to try all these libraries and that. 
[14:38:02] <WilhelmVonWeiner> Maybe replace otherwise pythonic tasks 
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