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[14:53:18] * kencausey [kencausey!~kencausey@cpe-74-141-227-67.kya.res.rr.com] has joined the channel. [14:54:53] The bespin logs link in the /topic doesn't work. It clog was updated and is no longer logging this channel. [14:55:07] s/It clog/It appears clog/ [14:56:27] Ah, I guess that is their for historic logs, nevermind. [14:57:17] Well, except it doesn't work. The only immediate replacement I see is http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/old/concatenative.zip [15:25:38] * FreeFull [FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover] has quit. [15:30:16] * FreeFull [FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover] has joined the channel. [16:22:39] kencausey: http://irclogs.factorcode.org/ works for this channel [16:23:31] Yes, I saw that after my initial comment [16:24:20] in general factor has destructive and non-destructive versions of everything, but it could use some cleanup [16:25:30] the okasaki datastructures are in USE: persistent.* (heaps, deques, assocs, vectors, sequences, hashtables) [16:26:55] sets are kind of an afterthought added late and not partcularly well done. they work if you use their obscure api with words like adjoin, members, cardinality, refine, combine [16:27:09] i dont really know what those do offhand :p [16:27:14] Unfortunately nowhere_man isn't here at the moment [16:27:21] fortunately there are logs! [16:27:23] :) [16:27:27] :) [16:27:40] who would have ever thought gcc would reach version 7? [16:27:42] Nice to know about persistent.* though [16:27:53] https://github.com/factor/factor/issues/2023 [16:29:36] What is the relevance/meaning of the basis directory (in contast to core and extra)? [16:30:44] core/ is supposed to be things used during bootstrap of the core language, basis/ is things used in bootstrap to make the tools (ui, compiler) or for polished libraries with docs/tests [16:30:59] extra/ is kind of random stuff that might work or not [16:31:08] i think we got it from sbcl [16:32:38] if factor could load vocabs with circular dependencies we could move to something like data-structures/ algorithms/ ffi/ apps/ [16:32:43] OK [16:33:00] Looking through it lately I kind of feel like extra is due for a cleanup [16:33:01] i tried it in a branch once, it was kind of meh :p [16:33:29] well i want to release .98 asap, i think it's ready (platforms bootstrap and ui starts without errors) [16:34:00] It is definitely well past time for a release so I'm looking forward to i. [16:34:05] it [16:34:09] then i wanted to clean up the parsing words to follow some predefined rules, like foo( ) foo[ ] foo{ } foo"" foo[[ ]] etc [16:34:26] so you wouldnt need parsing rules just compilation rules for each form [18:45:58] * raingloom [raingloom!~raingloom@C2267141.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). [19:13:37] * raingloom [raingloom!~raingloom@C2267141.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined the channel. [19:22:29] * maaku_ [maaku_!~maaku@173.234.25.100] has joined the channel. [19:22:36] * maaku [maaku!~maaku@173.234.25.100] has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). [19:55:12] * lonjil [lonjil!~quassel@2a02:418:6050:ed15:ed15:ed15:d8d4:564a] has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). [20:00:54] * lonjil [lonjil!~quassel@2a02:418:6050:ed15:ed15:ed15:e741:32d6] has joined the channel. [20:09:08] * lonjil [lonjil!~quassel@2a02:418:6050:ed15:ed15:ed15:e741:32d6] has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 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