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[08:06:35] <yumaikas> So, I drafted an article on factor (I'm not quite ready to submit it to aggregators/hn, but was curious as to what input you all would have: https://www.junglecoder.com/blog/factorlang-review )
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[11:24:12] <samebchase> yumaikas: It's good. Perhaps you could write a little more about the language itself. Something like: https://www.evanmiller.org/a-review-of-perl-6.html
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[18:24:32] <akkartik> I'm trying out Factor on Mac OS using the binary dmg, and it works great to click on the .app inside the volume. However, it doesn't work after I copy it over to /Applications. It seems to require the contents of the surrounding 'factor/' directory. Any others on Macs care to share how they tend to install Factor so that it can be opened from Spotlight?
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[18:39:47] <yumaikas> Maybe symlink from applications to the .dmg?
[18:41:33] <akkartik> That worked! Thanks :)
[18:43:46] <akkartik> Plot twist: I still can't run Factor.app from Spotlight. Running `open -a Factor.app` from the commandline works fine.
[18:44:06] <akkartik> I guess Spotlight doesn't like symlinks.
[18:44:17] <yumaikas> Huh, strange
[18:44:50] <yumaikas> What about dragging the whole .dmg into Applications?
[18:45:35] <akkartik> No, that wouldn't work. At best it would open the zip file and mount the new disk image as a new volume, or something.
[18:46:53] <yumaikas> Hrm.... That's frustrating. I don't have a Mac handy to test, so at best I can speculate for now
[18:47:02] * yumaikas defers to other advice
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[19:42:39] <erg> akkartik: could you file an issue on github please? github.com/factor/factor
[20:04:45] <bmp> I can't repro this.
[20:05:08] <bmp> Oh wait, you're going from the dmg. One sec.
[20:06:59] <bmp> Hmm. I still can't repro. 
[20:07:15] <bmp> OH!!
[20:07:23] <bmp> Nope, I can.
[20:07:51] <bmp> erg: There's not a great fix for this; we could embed all the stuff inside the `.app`, but then it won't be obvious where to find the source code.
[20:08:10] <bmp> I think having a background image that makes it clear that you have to drag the entire folder is probably the right course of action. That's roughly what DrRacket does.
[20:08:37] <bmp> (Or just writing an installer; Factor already has tar libraries, and it'd be kind of fun to make a Factor installer in Factor.)
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[22:01:43] <akkartik> bmp: so copying the entire folder into /Applications would work?
[22:04:14] <akkartik> Ok, I can find it on Spotlight now. I just had to open it from Finder a couple of times to train it for some reason.
[22:12:52] <akkartik> Are the sources for the website on GitHub?
[22:17:55] <bmp> akkartik: Yes, if you copy the entire folder to /Applications, not just the .app, it will work. 
[22:18:30] <bmp> And yes, sources are at github.com/factor/factor, but they're also distributed in the dmg. That's what's in the folder alongside the app. 
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