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[01:35:30] <^alex> we get a lot of mileage out of [01:35:42] <^alex> also the object inspector is nice [01:35:47] is powershell concatenative :) [01:36:29] who is we alex, who is we, and where do you get that mile age [01:36:46] <^alex> we are alex [01:36:59] <^alex> it's a dissociative thing don't worry too much about it [01:37:59] we need factor 2.0 [01:38:24] <^alex> and we get that mileage out of being able to uniformly inspect objects by their properties, the ease of introspection is nice [01:52:55] where do you get it, where do you use factor, hobby, work [01:53:09] fun [01:53:10] <^alex> yes both [01:53:12] <^alex> all three [01:53:16] :) [01:53:21] what type of work [01:53:27] which domain [01:53:59] <^alex> large-scale system administration, which is honestly a lot of mangling of json at the end of the day [01:54:07] :) [01:54:37] <^alex> jq honestly sucks so we do random json processing tasks with factor [01:56:39] jq ?? what is that [01:56:56] <^alex> the "standard" command-line tool for processing json [01:57:07] ok [01:58:25] thanks [02:02:34] <^alex> much easier to just read json out of a command or the clipboard and chew on it as a factor hash [02:06:20] cool [02:06:42] i am honestly interested because it is a different paradigm of programming, a different way of thinking [02:06:55] not really sure yet how practical or usable it is [02:07:12] ive seen the 10 year google talk [02:07:25] they had ambitious plans for facto 1.0 and 2.0 [02:07:31] obviously this went no where [02:07:46] and the talk is impressive considering this was done 10 years ago [02:07:58] at the time i guess it was more interesting than today [02:08:08] nowadays , many more nice languages [02:08:28] clojure, fsharp, powershell ... go, rust , reasonml [02:09:04] <^alex> factor works well with our weird brain i guess [02:09:08] and ironically, the original maker of factor is working on swift, in my opinion one of the least interesting new languages [02:09:56] i think forth and factor and concatenative languages are very interesting [02:10:22] <^alex> yes same [02:10:50] i like philosophical languages, just as lisp and tcl, and such, languages, based of few simple ideas [02:11:07] few powerful tools ... to build eveything [02:11:17] i think this works better for some brains [02:11:37] <^alex> it's the stack-based part that works for us [02:11:45] complexity doesnt go away, either put it in the language, or put it in the domain code [02:12:32] anyway, just my thinking [02:12:49] again, not sure how practical is forth and factor [02:14:12] * raingloom [raingloom!~raingloom@20014C4C22A159000000000000000004.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3). 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