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[20:01:31] <itmuckel> Has anyone already attempted to write a lsp (language server) for factor?
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[20:28:28] <itmuckel> After starting a http-server from the listener it runs fine, but how do I kill it? I restarted the listener, but the server keeps running and blocks the port.
[20:42:39] <itmuckel> Oh, sorry, found out. The example code had "wait-for-server" after the httpd call. I removed it. Now it pushes the server structure on the stack and I can stop it with "stop-server"
[20:51:15] <bmps> I've had a few false starts on the language server front, itmuckel 
[20:51:35] <bmps> I'll probably make a huge sprint the next time I get laid off, which is looking like October if the economy doesn't do something completely unexpected
[20:51:44] <bmps> Lemme know if you need help with the server.
[20:52:13] <bmps> Things I wish I had time to fix with Factor right now include getting it happier on Linux, getting a GraphQL implementation up, making the DB layer handle joins on Postgres, and some other stuff. Lots of things I'd like. :-/
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[21:12:39] <itmuckel> What stuff do you program on the job? What languages?
[21:13:53] <itmuckel> It's hard to find examples for everything and I'm looking all over the place, but I have to say, I'm really impressed. Running a server that parses and serves json is super easy. :-)
[21:14:56] <itmuckel> I spent the last two days (evenings and mornings) learning forth, but it's way too archaic imo
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[21:20:50] <^alex> imo learning forth is interesting but not necessary for learning factor
[21:21:39] <^alex> as factor is much more than a plain forth
[21:26:35] <itmuckel> Yeah, also I think that the basic principles of forth/factor are the same and very easy to grasp
[21:28:06] <itmuckel> And I think that instead of learning the peculiarities of forth and bit-shifting stuff and getting `." text"` into muscle memory just to unlearn it later just isn't forth it. ;-)
[21:28:45] <itmuckel> instead ... it's more rewarding to jump directly into factor.
[21:29:39] <itmuckel> Also mad respect for everyone who worked on this project. Awesome docs and stability for such a small project.
[21:31:28] <itmuckel> Is Slava out of the project? He didn't commited to the github repo the last years and his factor blog also ends in 2010.
[21:36:01] <bmps> itmuckel: I program mostly in TypeScript and Kotlin.
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[22:14:23] <itmuckel> I'm doing TypeScript too, C# on the backend.
[22:14:54] <^alex> we use python at work
[22:15:06] <^alex> mainly
[22:15:24] <itmuckel> Oh, cool. What type of software do you write?
[22:16:01] <^alex> bare-metal machine inventory management and reinstall coordination
[22:16:03] <^alex> but we're a polyglot hacker at heart
[22:16:42] <itmuckel> sounds interesting
[22:21:52] <^alex> nah most of what we do is delete code and complain about computers
[22:27:21] <^alex> and, when things get too out of hand, we threaten to port things to factor and leave them for future people to be baffled by
[22:50:08] <^alex> (we've yet to actually land Factor code to the monorepo, but we have posted snippets into tickets)
[23:06:21] <itmuckel> :-)
[23:07:28] <itmuckel> In furnace how do I parse the body of a post request? What type of action do I need to define? Is there an example of how to write a simple REST-Server?
[23:12:50] <^alex> extra/webapps has a set of examples
[23:29:54] <itmuckel> Yeah, but I'm browsing this since 30 minutes and all I see are web pages with forms. I want to handle post requests containing json and I can't find the place to put a handler like that. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. furnace actions might be only good for handling forms.
[23:30:32] <itmuckel> If anyone can guide me to an example with rest endpoints that would be nice. Just write it here. I'll read the logs, see you!
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[23:39:15] <^alex> not doing a lot of web server stuff ourselves, unsure, but it looks like you can get the post data off the request, or you might want to go up a level to the regular HTTP server 
[23:44:19] <^alex> for actions, (we're mostly guessing here) it looks like you'll be wanting to set the `submit` quotation for the action to something that starts with `request get post-data>>`
[23:45:09] <^alex> since the request is a dynamically-scoped variable
[23:47:01] <^alex> and on a post-data object, the `data` slot holds your data