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[17:37:48] <bmps> I just remembered I'd promised to look at the language server.
[17:37:52] <bmps> I'll take a look.
[17:37:56] <bmps> And good afternoon ^alex 
[17:38:07] <erg> good afternoon
[17:38:33] <bmps> Hi erg! Lemme know if you're comfy closing that ticket; it's definitely the bug you were hitting, although I can't reliably repro it on my Linux box (because I'm on a different GNOME version than you, I'm positive)
[17:38:43] <bmps> (Or I didn't symlink to the app manifest, not sure which)
[17:39:17] <erg> which ticket?
[17:39:39] <erg> oh just saw!
[17:39:59] <bmps> Looking at some Furance stuff this afternoon.
[17:40:19] <bmps> Unless there's something more pressing I should do.
[17:40:29] <bmps> (Like in your opinion I mean.)
[17:40:53] <bmps> I've also got Factor running on Windows and can look at the LSP, but I'm sure where that ended up.
[17:42:01] <bmps> I also think we should close issue 2278, which I'd do, but you added a whole pile of tags after it seems like it was resolved, so I'm not sure what you feel like on that one.
[17:42:08] <bmps> s/2278/2287
[17:42:18] <bmps> https://github.com/factor/factor/issues/2287 here that's copy pasta now and I can't mess it up, theoretically
[17:45:48] <bmps> erg: Is Factor on Linux okay again? I was deliberately avoiding it because I felt like I was swimming uphill the whole way.
[17:45:48] <erg> yeah that one seems solved
[17:45:55] <erg> it's good!
[17:45:57] <bmps> *for GUIs, I mean; console/server is fine
[17:46:09] <erg> i'm using it right now, no problems
[17:46:13] <bmps> Okay, then I'll take a longer look than just reproing/fixing icons. :)
[17:46:46] <bmps> I'm on an older Ubuntu LTS; I'll update to the latest and then take a more serious look. I've also got a Win 10 and a macOS crash log generator.
[17:46:49] <erg> if you could look at the html5 parser that would be cool
[17:47:32] <erg> factorcode crashed because of calling fork(). i have most of the work done for posix_spawnp()
[17:47:39] <bmps> Oh yeah! You sent me an email about that. I'll go look.
[17:47:39] <erg> it uses much less memory
[17:47:50] <bmps> Wait, is `fork` deprecated?
[17:48:36] <bmps> Okay, no, this is for machines lacking an MMU that therefore can't `fork` and then `execv`; why's this making a difference for Factor?
[17:49:54] <erg> https://github.com/rtomayko/posix-spawn check out the linux graph
[17:50:50] <erg> i'm on a digitalocean $12 box that has 2GB RAM
[17:52:59] <bmps> Wow. Damn. Okay then.
[17:53:06] <bmps> Sold.
[18:01:23] <pounce> hm, when i used `posix_spawn` in glibc it called out to like 30 different linux syscalls
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[18:04:05] <erg> posix_spawn is a syscall on macos, and a libc call on linux
[18:04:37] <pounce> yeah, I think the `USE_VFORK` is important here
[18:08:01] <erg> is that how you can make fork() use less memory on linux?
[18:09:44] <pounce> yeah i think so, it’s kinda hacky though so i’ve never used it. I just know when I tried out `posix_spawn` on linux it called out to `clone(20`
[18:09:48] <pounce> clone(2)*
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[18:33:15] <bmps> I was gonna say, isn't `fork` a libc on Linux, too? I thought `clone` was still the underlying syscall.
[18:33:25] <bmps> And I have to imagine that `posix_spawn` on Linux ultimately uses `clone` too, but maybe not.
[18:33:34] <bmps> That said, it might still be a huge win, based on what you showed.
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[21:19:40] <erg> bmps: any comments on the html5 parser?
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