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[18:49:20] <bmp> Since IRCCloud is apparently down for the count, hello from an actual terminal, I guess.
[18:49:24] <bmp> I need to fix Factor's IRC client.
[18:49:29] <bmp> Or revivify it, rather.
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[19:47:57] <bmp_> Ooooookay.
[19:48:06] <bmp> bmp_: What up?
[19:48:26] <bmp_> Well, IRC Cloud just logged in as me, while I'm logged in; couldn't get my nick; and decided to call it a day.
[19:48:33] <bmp> Woah. Did you provide alternative nicks though?
[19:48:37] <bmp_> Several. None were bmp_.
[19:49:29] <^alex> thing we like about running our own stuff is that when it's broke, it's our fault, and we can fix it.
[19:49:50] <^alex> but we're just Like That
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[20:05:07] <bmp_> ^alex: I do that in general, but IRC bouncers honestly all stink, and this is the only channel I care about.
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[20:30:03] <^alex> fair
[20:30:32] <^alex> the one that boggles most people is the "you... run your own email???"
[21:07:31] <bmp> I had to give up, TBH.
[21:07:37] <bmp> I am fully aware of how to do that.
[21:07:54] <bmp> But Google's concept of what "spam filtering" means—which has been adopted by everyone—sucks.
[21:16:57] <^alex> we don't send a whole lot anymore
[21:17:15] <^alex> but that means we can actually always keep the logs open, if mostly backgrounded
[21:17:26] <^alex> to observe immediately any delivery problems
[21:17:36] <^alex> we don't, in practice, experience any.
[21:18:10] <^alex> and we have some fairly explicitly bogus stuff set up, like we use the same DKIM key because we believe DKIM to be harmful garbage designed to stand up roadblocks instead of fixing the goddamn protocols
[21:18:21] <^alex> same DKIM key across domains*